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Paul Eckstein's avatar

Thanks for this wonderful piece. I recently had a student introduce himself at the beginning of one of my introduction to philosophy courses who said he made his living working sixty hours a week picking up trash, and had no time for hobbies, because he used the remaining time in his waking life taking care of his three children. He then indicated that he hoped he would get some guidance from the course to answer a question that had been bothering him: "What is consciousness, anyway?

To me, this student is a poster child for why we do what we do. I want to live in a society where no matter your station in life, you are an educated citizen of the world, who is qualified to engage in such matters simply because you are a human being. You don't have to be up on the latest intricate developments of particular theories in order to achieve value from asking such questions, and sometimes the naive come up with insights those with more education and experience can be blind to.

Dana Gioia's avatar

This is an insightful, candid, and surprisingly elegiac dialogue about the state of graduate education and careers in the humanities. I want to endorse Becca Rothfeld’s intuition that the problem predates the last decade.

When I left Harvard graduate school in 1975, there was already an oversupply of new doctoral students and professors. The problem was described by graduate advisors as temporary, but it has continued for the past half century. I chose to make my living as a writer outside the university, but over that period I have known well over a hundred young scholars caught up in a slowly shrinking system.

The problem is not only finding employment; it is keeping it and getting promoted. Or being able to teach worthwhile courses. It is also the common situation of taking a mediocre position and never being able to find a job elsewhere. Most of these people have left the profession often after having invested a decade or more in trying to make a minimally satisfying career.

I applaud Chicago for taking meaningful action. Their freeze on new students isn’t pleasant, but it is realistic. There are no pleasant solutions to the crisis.

The situation in the humanities reminds me of Hemingway’s character who is asked how he went bankrupt. He replies, “Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.” The university is now in the second part of this long process.

But let me end by saying something obvious that Rothfeld also reports. There are many other ways of leading a life in the arts and ideas outside academia. I can see the younger generation reinventing the American culture in different ways. Not the least of these is your Substack “magazine.”Congratulations to “The Point.”

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